Ingen har i den forgangne periode i Folketinget kæmpet mere intenst mod regeringens familiesammenføringsregler end jeg. Jeg er totalt imod 24 års reglen og tilknytningkravt, fordi jeg har mødt en masse mennesker, hvis familieliv er blevet ødelagt af disse.
Personligt mener jeg, at det er muligt at lave regler, som både forhindrer tvangsægteskaber og import af ægtefæller OG giver plads til kærlighed.
De regler, vi har, gør ingen af delene. Der er desværre stadig tvangsægteskaber og vi svigter de unge massivt. Nogle sendes til fjerne egne til en ægtefælle, de ikke kender - andre havner på krisecentre i Malmø. Reglerne forhindrer ikke tvang, men betyder for en del at tvangen foregår et sted, hvor INGEN kan hjælpe dem. Tilgengæld sidder en masse mennesker i Malmø og Flensborg, som gerne ville bo i Danmark - deres fædreland. Men det må de ikke, selvom deres kærlighed er den ægte vare.
Vi skal forhindre ægteskaber, som ikke baserer sig på kærlighed, men skal ikke som det eneste land i Europa forhindre vore egne statsborgere i at bo i Danmark med deres ægtefælle og børn.
Det kræver en ny politik på området. En politik som kan se forskel på de her pseudo-ægteskaber og kærlighedsægteskaber. Det tror vi på kan lade sig gøre - vi ser spændende løsninger rundt om i Europa. Det arbejder vi på at skaffe flertal for fra nu af og indtil det sker.
Det Margrethe forklarer i Politikken idag er derfor blot, at vi i Radikale Venstre kun har ét ultimativt krav til en ny regering - hvis den skal føre en anden politik, skal den være uafhængig af Dansk Folkeparti.
Man kan også sige - at vi tror det er nemmere at finde nye løsninger på familiesammenføringsområdet, hvis Pia Kjærsgaard ikke er en del af flertallet. Der er kortere vej til hjertet på en socialdemokrat end en DF’er - også efter et valg!
What about the Danes?
Due to the 24 year rule we took the backdoor option thru the EU free movement of labour law (thereby my danish wife was denied the right to study in Denmark) to come to Denmark. This was our only option and brings me to a couple of questions regarding the Danish constitution when applied to students.
View Point:
If a Danish student that has just finished e.g. Gymnasium leave the EU to do volunteer work for a couple of months to get extra points to get into a dream study ,fall in love and get married. They are not allowed to get a Danish education.
If a Danish student in the 5th/6th semester leave the EU for 6 months to study abroad as part of their education, fall in love and get married. They are not allowed to complete their education in Denmark.
In both the top two examples these two groupes of students are being denied the right to education. Witch is the right of every Dane in Denmark?
How can the education ministry make a law e.g. It is the constitutional right of every Dane to get a education if they qualify and then the immigration ministry make a law e.g. the 24 year rule, where these two are in direct conflict of each other.
How can they tell a Dane that they are not allowed to get an education due to the fact that they are under 24 years of age and married to a non EU citizen. This is in Direct conflict with the constitution in Denmark and therefore ilegal regarding the rights of students.
Marnus Du Toit
30. oktober 2007 20:31
Jeg når heldigvis lige at stemme inden jeg rejser til DR Congo for at gifte mig med min congolesiske kæreste. Vi kan selvfølgelig ikke blive gift her i Danmark fordi jeg er 23 (det kunne vi i øvrigt ikke alligevel uden at få konfiskeret de 53.268kr vi skulle stille i bankgaranti). Og vi er efter 7 måneders adskillelse ærlig talt trætte af at vente i frustration og usikkerhed omkring hvad vi skal gøre. Vi har opgivet at bo i Danmark og håber som så mange andre på at få lov til at bo i Sverige, da uddannelsesmulighederne i Congo desværre lader meget tilbage at ønske.
Jeg forstår slet ikke hvorfor vi skal have sådanne regler der påvirker så mange menneskers liv så drastisk. Jeg havde selv planer om at uddanne mig til Folkeskolelærer og min kæreste vil hellere end gerne lære dansk og sætte sig ind i det danske samfund og arbejde her - hvis han bare fik lov. Hvad er det der retfærdiggør at vi skal lukkes ude? Hvem er det jeg og alle de mennesker der er i min situation skal opgive vores liv i Danmark for?
Jeg synes ærlig talt det er for nemt at sige “Så kunne du jo bare finde én fra Danmark” eller “Så kan i jo bare bo i hans hjemland” eller “I kan jo bare flytte til Sverige”. Et land velstående land som Danmark kan da ikke bare sende borgere ud til andre lande og lade dem sejle i deres egen sø, bare fordi de er under 28 og gerne vil giftes - eller måske bliver tvunget af familien.
Det betyder virkelig meget for mig at kunne stemme på en politiker der ligesom jeg mener at Danmark ikke kun skal være for danskere der gifter sig med danskere. Jeg håber virkelig at det bliver nemmere for folk i fremtiden at stå i min situation.
Karen
8. november 2007 14:22
I am 22 years old, Australian and engaged to a 24 year old Dane. As you can see, we have a big problem under the current Danish immigration laws. I also feel that these laws are very discriminatory and conflicting with the Danish right to education. I myself have a bachelor degree in biology (2 years more education and i would qualify for the positive job card scheme) and my fiancee is studying to be a vet nurse. These are both areas of education where Denmark lacks people. Yet, because the Danish government has decided that people from outside of Europe do not have the right to marry for love, Denmark may lose both of us. If we both go to Australia and wait for me to turn 24, we will no longer satisfy the attachment rule.
This is crazy! Can Danish polititians not see this!
I would also like to add here that i have been in Denmark for the last 6 months on a working holiday visa and have been going to school to learn Danish and can already communicate quite well in Danish.
How is it logical to exclude someone who is wanting to be a part of socitey, who is willing to learn Danish, who can fill a hole in the job market, who already has tertiary education, and at the same time exclude the Dane they have fallen in love with?
Unfortunately, for the majority of voting Danes, this is not a prominent, vote changing issue. We must find some way to show the elected politicians that it is in Denmarks best interests to change this law. I mean, come on, every other western country legislates against arranged mariages without obstructing their own citizens’ right to marry for love; why can’t Denmark?!
Amanda
17. marts 2008 16:09
Both me and my wife were married in South Africa, back in 2001 under the ‘new’ immigration laws bought in by AFR. We were both under 24 years old. In 2003 she wanted to come back to study law in Denmark.
A Danish immigration lawyer (EU lawyer) recomended going thru the ‘back door’ into the country. In short all you need to do is documenting working legally with your spouse in any EU country for a minimum time of 6 months. The danish goverment then has to give the Non EU citizen a visa for living and working in Denmark. Great stuff!
I could get a holiday working visa for England so thats where we went for 8 months and in June 2003 we came to denmark. If you have a Education get it changed to a Danish standard at CVUU or Cirius. It helps a lot in gettin work. They put mine into Produktion Technolog med speciale i Plast.
The following comes form Nyidanmark.dk
Family reunification in Denmark under EU regulations
If you are a non-EU/EEA citizen, and your spouse/registered partner/cohabiting partner is a Danish citizen, you may be eligible for a residence permit if your Danish spouse/partner falls under the EU regulations on free movement of labour and services.
The EU regulations on free movement typically only apply when Danish citizens relocate to Denmark from abroad. They are normally not applicable in cases in which the Danish citizen lives in Denmark.
However, there are European Court of Justice precedents that make it possible for Danish citizens living in Denmark to apply for family reunification using the EU regulations on free movement.
These rulings apply in cases in which the Danish citizen has lived in another EU/EEA country, or in which the Danish citizen lives in Denmark, but makes use of the right to the free movement of services.
Danish citizens returning from another EU/EEA country
If your Danish spouse/partner has lived in another EU/EEA country and wishes to return to Denmark together with you under the EU regulations on free movement, the following three requirements must be met:
1. Your Danish spouse/partner must have lived in the other EU/EEA country as either:
* an employee
* a self-employed person
* a service provider
* a retired employee
* a retired self-employed person or
* a retired service provider
2. If you are married or registered partners, your marriage/registered partnership must be valid at the time you arrive in Denmark and must continue to be valid during your period of residence in Denmark. If you are cohabiting partners, your cohabitation must continue during your period of residence in Denmark.
3. You must have resided legally in the EU/EEA country where your Danish spouse/partner resided under the EU regulations on free movement (cf. requirement 1).
There is no minimum requirement to your Danish spouse’s/partner’s length of stay in the other EU/EEA country, but he or she must have made use of the right to free movement of labour and must have had actual residence in the other country.
The employment in the other EU/EEA country must have been more than marginal in nature. Whether working as an employee, a self-employed person or a service provider, your Danish spouse/partner must have worked a minimum of 10 hours per week.
Danish citizens living in Denmark making use of the free movement of services
If your Danish spouse/partner lives in Denmark and wishes to bring you to Denmark under the EU regulations on free movement, the following four requirements must be met:
1. Your Danish spouse/partner must live in Denmark and provide an inter-state service to another EU/EEA country. Examples include: advertisement sales in printed publications, telephone or internet-based consulting services, holding correspondence courses, selling lottery tickets or concert tickets to people living in another EU/EEA country.
2. You must have entered Denmark legally.
3. If you are married or registered partners, your marriage/registered partnership must be valid at the time you arrive in Denmark and must continue to be valid during your period of residence in Denmark
4. You and your spouse/partner must live together as a couple or family in Denmark.
Marnus du Toit
17. marts 2008 21:12